TO ALL EMO HERE {Don't Worry, This is NOT shit..}
cin6274
Aug 24, 2007
i found this on friendster..credits to Raine Helena...
this is so insightful and worth reposting...
EMO = EMOTIONAL HARDCORE
Contrary to popular belief, Emo is not short for Emotional, at least not really. It is not a style, either. It has nothing to do with cutting yourself, or boys with swooping haircuts taking pictures of themselves. Emo is not about whining about your problems. Its got nothing to do with your girlfriend breaking up with you. If you believe that, youre exercising your right to do so. This does not, however, make you correct.
Emo is short for Emotional, sort of. Its short for Emotional Hardcore. Say it with me, folks. And repeat it several times to yourself. The thing Ive never gotten is how people can even begin to believe that its short for Emotional, because, well, the theme song for Fraggle Rock is emotional, for christs sakes.
One response I usually get, when I say that its short for Emotional Hardcore, is "Well, if all music is emotional, wouldnt it just be Hardcore?" I respond with telling them what the word Emotional means, when talking about Emo. The emotional aspect of Emo comes from the lyrics. They are, of course, emotionally driven, but usually actually about one emotion or another. Its usually about anger towards something, or whatever you want. Its instrumentals are brutal and loud, and seemingly random. They are the instrumental equivalent of screaming your lungs out.
Another question I get a lot is, What if an Emo band got popular? Would it stop being Emo? The answer is: No, it wouldnt. In the recent months, Circle Takes The Square has gotten somewhat popular, thank god.
However, people need to understand that Emo is essentially DIY punk. It cannot be mainstream. It can be as popular as it can possibly get. But its still not mainstream. When we say DIY, we mean it gets where it gets without corporate promotion, and its produced independently. What happens if you happen to see a Circle Takes The Square album at Wal-Mart? You stop taking drugs. This wouldnt happen. Youre probably only going to find their album at, say, an independent record store. Even those dont always carry what you want. Its usually best to go with a distribution (or distro) website. Youll notice that those sites rarely charge very much for music, and they usually carry vinyl as well. Theyre always worth a look, and I have yet to find a distro that I wouldnt use again.
When I think about the songs Ive heard, only one song comes to mind thats Emo and about a break-up: Venus & Bacchus by Saetia. But, take note: It isnt a boo hoo, my girlfriend broke up with me, Im gonna whine about it song. Its about how much the guy hates what the girl did.
Emo started in the 80s, with a little band by the name of Rites Of Spring. While this is arguable, as the Husker Du album Zen Arcade, which is said to have started the style, came out before Rites Of Springs End On End album. But I digress. Rites Of Spring were only together from the spring of 1984 through the winter of 1986, but in that span of time, they set the stage for the shape of punk to come. The term Emo started when people at Rites Of Spring concerts started yelling Youre emo! at them. This is part of why people say Rites Of Spring started Emo. I tend to go with this, partially because I dont like the thought that an album started the genre. It makes more sense that the band themselves did.
Emo sparked and faded a bit, until the legendary band Moss Icon came along. In my personal opinion, while Rites Of Spring started the genre, Moss Icon perfected it. Their album Lyburnum is widely considered one of the best Emo albums around, as its the ideal album. In my experience, the music on the album is perfect for beginners, as its not too loud, but its not quiet, either.
Other bands like Embrace (the US version), Faith, Void, and so on ruled the scene, blazing the trail for the new subgenre of hardcore.
After awhile, the sub-movement of Screamo began. Bands like Palatka and Swing Kids were the new norm. It was loud, fast, and it could easily kill you, if you werent careful. This kind of music has become the new norm for Emo bands, but the unfortunate thing is that, nine times our of ten, it sounds like random syllables being screamed.
One thing that I dont like is that people talk about the waves of emo. This doesnt work, because it usually includes whats considered Emo today. Yes, genres do change as the years go by. Rock has stopped being about sex and drugs, and started being more about that and more about relationships. Rockers have started talking about making love. But genres do not become the polar opposite. Does it really make sense that a bunch of guys screaming could really evolve into one guy with an acoustic guitar? I dont think so. Sure, Pg. 99 is a vastly different band than, say, Moss Icon, but the two are in the same genre because of their sound and their content. Sure, Pg. 99 was a band with songs that make your vocal chords bleed just listen to them. Sure, Moss Icon sounds more like one of today's louder Indie bands, at times. But the two are, inherently, the same, because of their sound and their content. Go read the Mall Emo section for more on the subject.
ON THE SUBJECT OF SCREAMO:
<!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> Screamo is the only subcategory of Emo. It is categorized by much more screaming than the average Emo band (and it shows, if you listen to Rites of Spring and then Orchid), but there really isn't much else that separates an Emo band from a Screamo band. However, Screamo is STILL Emo, and still must follow the rules of Emo. You may have been to Fourfa, and heard terms such as Emocore and Emo Violence. Well, I'm here to tell you that the creator of this site (Fourfa, I mean) simply did not know what he was talking about. There is no Post Emo Indie Rock. Just good ol' Emo. Post-Emo Indie can't be a genre because there is no Post Emo. It's still alive and kicking. Post-Hardcore works because Hardcore as a genre has all but died.
sss
Also, the phrase "Post-Emo" seems to imply that, not only is Emo a dead genre, but it shares a lot of the traits that Emo has. Now, compare a band like, say, A Fine Boat, That Coffin! and, say, Taking Back Sunday. Do they sound anything alike, besides the fact that Taking Back Sunday can be a bit loud at times? Not really. Or, how about Moss Icon and Dashboard Confessional? Do they share any major traits? I'm excluding style and such, I mean lyrics and such. Do they share anything? Not really. So how can Dashboard be Post-Emo Indie, whey aren't Post-anything?
In addition, Emo is a sub-genre. Punk, then hardcore, then Emo. So, then, Post-Emo Indie would be a sub-genre of Emo. So, how can those bands be Post-Emo Indie, when they don't truly share any traits with Punk, Hardcore, or Emo?
I agree that these bands, and the title, have been exploited. But is the best way to cope with that exploitation, to create a new title that exploits not only Emo, but Indie as well?
It's a pickle.
SOME EMO BANDS
1905
A Case Of Grenada
Amanda Woodward
Ampere
Angel Hair
Antioch Arrow
Arse Moreira
Assfactor 4
Aussitt Mort
Balaclava
Baron Noir
Blacken the Skies
Boa Narrow
Born Dead Icons
Breather Resist
Bucket Full of Teeth
Burnman
Calvary
Circle Takes the Square
City of Caterpillar
Clikatat Ikatowi
Cobra Kai
Conation
Corn On Macabre
Cost of An Arm
Cowboys Became Folk Heroes
Creation is Crucifixion
Crestfallen
Current
Daitro
Danse Macabre
Dear Diary I Seem To Be Dead
Die, Emperor Die!
Dispensing Of False Halos
Efra
Embrace
Emo Summer
Enoch Ardon
Envy
Evergreen
Flashbulb Memory
Former Members of Alfonsin
Funeral Diner
Get Fucked
Gospel
Harriet the Spy
Heroin
Hot Cross
Hugs
I Hate Myself
Indian Summer
I Wrote Haikus About Cannibalism In Your Yearbook
I Would Set Myself on Fire for You
I, Robot
Index for Potential Suicide
Joan Of Arc
Joshua Fit for Battle
Kakistocracy
The Khayembii Communique
Kobayashi
The Kodan Armada
La Quiete
Lee Marvin Computer Arm
Life at These Speeds
Light the Fuse and Run
Louise Cyphre
Love Like... Electrocution
Love Lost But Not Forgotten
Make Me
Malady
Mannequin
Mary Reilly
Mass Movement of the Moth
Mayans
Maxamillian Colby
Memento Mori
Moss Icon
Neil Perry
Off Minor
Orchid
Palatka
Pg.99
Phoenix Bodies
Please Inform the Captain This is a Hijack
Plunger
Policy of Three
Portrait
Portraits of Past
Pretty Faces
Raein
Rites of Spring
Ruhaeda
Saetia
Sakita Sarra
Shikari
Shotmaker
Sinkthefucker
Sl's3
Sophora
Stop It!
Suis la Lune
Systral
Tafkata
Takaru
Ten Grand/The Vidablue
The Apoplexy Twist Orchestra
The Avenging Disco Godfathers of Soul
The Disease
The Holy Shroud
The Infarto, Scheisse!
The Spirit Of Versailles
The State Secedes
To Dreamo of Autumn
Towers
Transistor Transistor
Turn Around Norman
Twelve Hour Turn
Uranus
Usurp Synapse
We Fly Our Kites at Night
Whenallelsefails
Wolves
Wow, Owls!
Yage
Yaphet Kotto
You and I
Zegota
this is so insightful and worth reposting...
EMO = EMOTIONAL HARDCORE
Contrary to popular belief, Emo is not short for Emotional, at least not really. It is not a style, either. It has nothing to do with cutting yourself, or boys with swooping haircuts taking pictures of themselves. Emo is not about whining about your problems. Its got nothing to do with your girlfriend breaking up with you. If you believe that, youre exercising your right to do so. This does not, however, make you correct.
Emo is short for Emotional, sort of. Its short for Emotional Hardcore. Say it with me, folks. And repeat it several times to yourself. The thing Ive never gotten is how people can even begin to believe that its short for Emotional, because, well, the theme song for Fraggle Rock is emotional, for christs sakes.
One response I usually get, when I say that its short for Emotional Hardcore, is "Well, if all music is emotional, wouldnt it just be Hardcore?" I respond with telling them what the word Emotional means, when talking about Emo. The emotional aspect of Emo comes from the lyrics. They are, of course, emotionally driven, but usually actually about one emotion or another. Its usually about anger towards something, or whatever you want. Its instrumentals are brutal and loud, and seemingly random. They are the instrumental equivalent of screaming your lungs out.
Another question I get a lot is, What if an Emo band got popular? Would it stop being Emo? The answer is: No, it wouldnt. In the recent months, Circle Takes The Square has gotten somewhat popular, thank god.
However, people need to understand that Emo is essentially DIY punk. It cannot be mainstream. It can be as popular as it can possibly get. But its still not mainstream. When we say DIY, we mean it gets where it gets without corporate promotion, and its produced independently. What happens if you happen to see a Circle Takes The Square album at Wal-Mart? You stop taking drugs. This wouldnt happen. Youre probably only going to find their album at, say, an independent record store. Even those dont always carry what you want. Its usually best to go with a distribution (or distro) website. Youll notice that those sites rarely charge very much for music, and they usually carry vinyl as well. Theyre always worth a look, and I have yet to find a distro that I wouldnt use again.
When I think about the songs Ive heard, only one song comes to mind thats Emo and about a break-up: Venus & Bacchus by Saetia. But, take note: It isnt a boo hoo, my girlfriend broke up with me, Im gonna whine about it song. Its about how much the guy hates what the girl did.
Emo started in the 80s, with a little band by the name of Rites Of Spring. While this is arguable, as the Husker Du album Zen Arcade, which is said to have started the style, came out before Rites Of Springs End On End album. But I digress. Rites Of Spring were only together from the spring of 1984 through the winter of 1986, but in that span of time, they set the stage for the shape of punk to come. The term Emo started when people at Rites Of Spring concerts started yelling Youre emo! at them. This is part of why people say Rites Of Spring started Emo. I tend to go with this, partially because I dont like the thought that an album started the genre. It makes more sense that the band themselves did.
Emo sparked and faded a bit, until the legendary band Moss Icon came along. In my personal opinion, while Rites Of Spring started the genre, Moss Icon perfected it. Their album Lyburnum is widely considered one of the best Emo albums around, as its the ideal album. In my experience, the music on the album is perfect for beginners, as its not too loud, but its not quiet, either.
Other bands like Embrace (the US version), Faith, Void, and so on ruled the scene, blazing the trail for the new subgenre of hardcore.
After awhile, the sub-movement of Screamo began. Bands like Palatka and Swing Kids were the new norm. It was loud, fast, and it could easily kill you, if you werent careful. This kind of music has become the new norm for Emo bands, but the unfortunate thing is that, nine times our of ten, it sounds like random syllables being screamed.
One thing that I dont like is that people talk about the waves of emo. This doesnt work, because it usually includes whats considered Emo today. Yes, genres do change as the years go by. Rock has stopped being about sex and drugs, and started being more about that and more about relationships. Rockers have started talking about making love. But genres do not become the polar opposite. Does it really make sense that a bunch of guys screaming could really evolve into one guy with an acoustic guitar? I dont think so. Sure, Pg. 99 is a vastly different band than, say, Moss Icon, but the two are in the same genre because of their sound and their content. Sure, Pg. 99 was a band with songs that make your vocal chords bleed just listen to them. Sure, Moss Icon sounds more like one of today's louder Indie bands, at times. But the two are, inherently, the same, because of their sound and their content. Go read the Mall Emo section for more on the subject.
ON THE SUBJECT OF SCREAMO:
<!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> Screamo is the only subcategory of Emo. It is categorized by much more screaming than the average Emo band (and it shows, if you listen to Rites of Spring and then Orchid), but there really isn't much else that separates an Emo band from a Screamo band. However, Screamo is STILL Emo, and still must follow the rules of Emo. You may have been to Fourfa, and heard terms such as Emocore and Emo Violence. Well, I'm here to tell you that the creator of this site (Fourfa, I mean) simply did not know what he was talking about. There is no Post Emo Indie Rock. Just good ol' Emo. Post-Emo Indie can't be a genre because there is no Post Emo. It's still alive and kicking. Post-Hardcore works because Hardcore as a genre has all but died.
sss
Also, the phrase "Post-Emo" seems to imply that, not only is Emo a dead genre, but it shares a lot of the traits that Emo has. Now, compare a band like, say, A Fine Boat, That Coffin! and, say, Taking Back Sunday. Do they sound anything alike, besides the fact that Taking Back Sunday can be a bit loud at times? Not really. Or, how about Moss Icon and Dashboard Confessional? Do they share any major traits? I'm excluding style and such, I mean lyrics and such. Do they share anything? Not really. So how can Dashboard be Post-Emo Indie, whey aren't Post-anything?
In addition, Emo is a sub-genre. Punk, then hardcore, then Emo. So, then, Post-Emo Indie would be a sub-genre of Emo. So, how can those bands be Post-Emo Indie, when they don't truly share any traits with Punk, Hardcore, or Emo?
I agree that these bands, and the title, have been exploited. But is the best way to cope with that exploitation, to create a new title that exploits not only Emo, but Indie as well?
It's a pickle.
SOME EMO BANDS
1905
A Case Of Grenada
Amanda Woodward
Ampere
Angel Hair
Antioch Arrow
Arse Moreira
Assfactor 4
Aussitt Mort
Balaclava
Baron Noir
Blacken the Skies
Boa Narrow
Born Dead Icons
Breather Resist
Bucket Full of Teeth
Burnman
Calvary
Circle Takes the Square
City of Caterpillar
Clikatat Ikatowi
Cobra Kai
Conation
Corn On Macabre
Cost of An Arm
Cowboys Became Folk Heroes
Creation is Crucifixion
Crestfallen
Current
Daitro
Danse Macabre
Dear Diary I Seem To Be Dead
Die, Emperor Die!
Dispensing Of False Halos
Efra
Embrace
Emo Summer
Enoch Ardon
Envy
Evergreen
Flashbulb Memory
Former Members of Alfonsin
Funeral Diner
Get Fucked
Gospel
Harriet the Spy
Heroin
Hot Cross
Hugs
I Hate Myself
Indian Summer
I Wrote Haikus About Cannibalism In Your Yearbook
I Would Set Myself on Fire for You
I, Robot
Index for Potential Suicide
Joan Of Arc
Joshua Fit for Battle
Kakistocracy
The Khayembii Communique
Kobayashi
The Kodan Armada
La Quiete
Lee Marvin Computer Arm
Life at These Speeds
Light the Fuse and Run
Louise Cyphre
Love Like... Electrocution
Love Lost But Not Forgotten
Make Me
Malady
Mannequin
Mary Reilly
Mass Movement of the Moth
Mayans
Maxamillian Colby
Memento Mori
Moss Icon
Neil Perry
Off Minor
Orchid
Palatka
Pg.99
Phoenix Bodies
Please Inform the Captain This is a Hijack
Plunger
Policy of Three
Portrait
Portraits of Past
Pretty Faces
Raein
Rites of Spring
Ruhaeda
Saetia
Sakita Sarra
Shikari
Shotmaker
Sinkthefucker
Sl's3
Sophora
Stop It!
Suis la Lune
Systral
Tafkata
Takaru
Ten Grand/The Vidablue
The Apoplexy Twist Orchestra
The Avenging Disco Godfathers of Soul
The Disease
The Holy Shroud
The Infarto, Scheisse!
The Spirit Of Versailles
The State Secedes
To Dreamo of Autumn
Towers
Transistor Transistor
Turn Around Norman
Twelve Hour Turn
Uranus
Usurp Synapse
We Fly Our Kites at Night
Whenallelsefails
Wolves
Wow, Owls!
Yage
Yaphet Kotto
You and I
Zegota
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